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Post by John Darnacan on Oct 1, 2012 17:22:30 GMT
Yes, sad. But other than that, what did you think?
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Post by Fitz Kreiner on Oct 3, 2012 18:10:51 GMT
Well, as usual, unlike Castellan I'm sad to see the Ponds go. But still, what a departure. Not sure that I'd class it as the best companion exit ever but it's certainly up there with Jamie, Zoe, Jo, Sarah and Lucie Miller.
The Angels are always enough to unnerve anyone, and this is just a continuation of them. Back in Blink they were total unknowns and there were just four of them. The first exposure was terrifying not knowing anything about them. Then, when they returned, there was an army of them, and whilst quite a few people didn't like the fact that you saw an Angel move, it really freaked me out and made them quite a bit more scary. This time, we've baby Angels, probably the scariest and creepiest of the lot. Cherubs are quite common statues and the laughter and scuttling feet were really freaky. And as for the statues that didn't look like Angels, well, that brought the last montage at the end of Blink of all the other statues much scarier.
The emotion of the departure of the Ponds was really good too. All the way through I was expecting Rory to die, what with what we've seen of him so far through the series. And, yes, he may have done, but in that way, so did Amy. But it wasn't the death that I was expecting. They lived their lives together happily. It wasn't the death in the vein of Adric, or Rose and Donna. Yes, they died eventually, which is what was said would happen, but after a long life together. As opposed to the promised deaths of Rose and Donna which never happened, just a death in words.
Ok, as Castellan said there may have been a few plot holes, but that didn't detract from the story. The Doctor was a little superfluous in the story, but that didn't seem to matter in the thread of the story.
I'm just looking forward to seeing where the Doctor goes from here. I just hope that Moffatt doesn't go down the RTD route of having the Doctor moping about for Amy and Rory as Tennant did for Rose throughout the rest of his run, which got very old very quickly.
Still, bring on Christmas, more Matt, the return of JLC and Richard E Grant as the villain of the piece (possibly).
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Post by Slagathor on Oct 5, 2012 14:41:50 GMT
I love the use of the New York locations. I've been to Central Park many times, often passing under the bridge where Rory disappeared. (I guess I was just lucky.)
Very sentimental. Perhaps a bit too much. I like the Doctor's vulnerability. But for someone who has been through this before before, I would expect him to hold up a bit more. Timey-whimey is OK. But Timey-whimpy is something else.
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Post by John Darnacan on Oct 9, 2012 11:52:21 GMT
How many times has Rory died? Three times in this story alone. The build-up to the Ponds was too over-hyped and over-publicized. We knew they were going to leave in a heartbreaking manner. So with the Weeping Angels, that meant they were going to get sent back in time. So, that part was very predictable. I liked the 1938 New York setting. Although, I didn't really understand how the Angels received additional power by holding onto their victims. As for the Statue of Liberty, it's made of copper not stone. It was created by Frédéric Bartholdi in 1886. So, its genesis is well-known history One thing I liked was a better explanation of what could be changed. "Time can be rewritten"
"Not when you've already read it" Not a bad story, but it was clearly designed for the Ponds to exit.
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Post by Slagathor on Oct 21, 2012 23:46:05 GMT
Actually, I just re-watched The End of Time, Tennant's farewell story. The ending was far more sentimental than Angels Take Manhattan. So maybe I was a bit hard on the Pond's last episode. It's especially sad when you see Lis Sladen.
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