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Post by Claire Voyant on Nov 22, 2007 3:06:53 GMT
Happy Thanksgiving! Here comes the turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, and pumpkin pie!  Gobble, gobble! ;D |
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Post by t on Nov 22, 2007 14:59:45 GMT
Happy Thanksgiving Claire  |
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Post by Slagathor on Nov 22, 2007 15:33:27 GMT
Happy Thanksgiving all. I know it's an American holiday, but I think it's one that should be shared globally. It's not based on any specific religion or political ideology. We should just be thankful for all we have. So I thank you all, for being my online friends.  |
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Post by t on Nov 22, 2007 15:46:49 GMT
Happy Thankgiving Slagathor Thank you too for being a good online friend |
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Post by Claire Voyant on Nov 27, 2007 0:07:58 GMT
Well Thanksgiving's over. Nothing left but leftover turkey and stuffing. But I add my voice to Slagathor and Thasc's in being thankful for this forum and its members. Group hug? |
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Post by John Darnacan on Nov 27, 2007 11:47:22 GMT
Well thank you. And I thank everyone.
Ok, [HUG]
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Post by Claire Voyant on Nov 28, 2007 12:42:37 GMT
[HUG]
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Post by Slagathor on Nov 28, 2007 12:50:33 GMT
OK, [HUG] |
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Post by t on Nov 28, 2007 13:37:52 GMT
[HUG HUG] ;D
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Post by Claire Voyant on Nov 28, 2007 15:18:14 GMT
[HUG] Ooh, what was that? Hey, somebody better watch where they're putting their hand. ;D
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Post by Slagathor on Nov 29, 2007 16:53:06 GMT
Ooops! Sorry. ;D
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Post by Hoichi on Nov 29, 2007 18:28:01 GMT
For those who celebrate it, I hope you enjoyed it. I, however, don't agree with the celebration of 'European pilgrims' acting friendly with the Native Americans when they needed help from the 'Injuns' and then taking the land from them in the following years. Also 'Thanksgiving' has been used to 'celebrate' the victory at Saratoga (against loyalist forces often called 'The British') and the deaths of many fellow country men who merely thought under a different flag. For me the bad outweighs the good.
The Canadian 'Thanksgiving' has a similar history.
What could have been a great holiday was spoilt in my opinion.
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Post by Slagathor on Nov 30, 2007 12:09:05 GMT
Thanksgiving is not about conflict. It was about how two peoples came together to celebrate their good fortunes. I will be the first to admit that in subsequent years, both before and especially after the revolution, native American Indians were treated horribly. But that is not what Thanksgiving commemorates.
As to the Battle of Saratoga, I have never heard of the slightest connection between it and the Thanksgiving holiday. Just coincidentally, I visited and camped near the battlefield a few weeks ago (and almost froze BTW). I visited the museum and hiked through the battlefield. I can sincerely say the portrayal of British General Burgoyne and his soldiers was quite respectful. The British forces were outnumbered, yet still fought quite honorably. The museum focused on the strategic and historic importance of the battle, with no derogatory commentary of the British forces. And at the gift shop, my son chose to purchase a British flag, not an American one.
Nowhere was there any reference to the Thanksgiving Holiday.
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Post by Claire Voyant on Nov 30, 2007 12:45:52 GMT
There have been many thanksgiving days celebrated in different places, at different times, for different reasons.
According to Wikipedia, [not always the most reliable source] during the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress appointed one or more thanksgiving days each year. The First National Proclamation of Thanksgiving was given by the Continental Congress in 1777. (Yes, the same year as Saratoga)
However, the Thanksgiving Day currently celebrated in the U.S. began in 1863 by President Lincoln, with no reference to any particular event. If it has any connection to war, it would the American Civil War.
However, it is popularly connected with the pilgrims' celebration.
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Post by John Darnacan on Dec 1, 2007 19:15:16 GMT
I think we need to remember the spirit of the holidays. Looking back through history may lead us to worry about the concerns and intentions of people longer around. Let the living celebrate their good fortune and leave the dead to their own concerns. If Thankgiving had a less than perfect origin, people have made it a more enlightened holiday.
Christmas, on the other hand, began as a "Good-Will-to-All" holiday, and has been transformed into a conglomeration of stress, commerce and greed.
But I do give thanks for my good fortunes. So Happy Thanksgiving (and Bah Humbug) ;D
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