Post by Tumble Lord on Nov 25, 2006 18:11:15 GMT
"Lots of planets have a north"- the Doctor
It was too short, lacking in character development and the scares it so richly needed. If you're going to make a monster or threat credible give it some decent moments, build it up not down, don't downplay it. The same with the characters; Clive was poorly lacking, he could have been given more screen time, he was cut out so quickly just as the Autons jerked into life.
45 Minutes just isn't long enough to compact a familiar formated story down. Plus it wasn't supposed to be tongue-in-cheek but unfortunately it ended up that way, with all the bits that emulate Buffy humour. The dialogue about all inert things made of plastic coming to life; cables, bags and then Rose's "breast implants". Not needed, come on it's supposed to be credible, not laughable.
Doctor Who was about playing cowboys and indians in space, humans versus alien monsters that wanted to invade, conquer and colonise; where has this format ever really been shown? No where; most mainstream sci-fi distances itself from the "cliched" B-movie scenarios but Doctor Who lived this, made it real, so bring it all back, seriously done, give a whole new generation a want to hide behind the sofa. If it's for family viewing don't turn it into light-hearted entertainment, treat the audience with respect, give them a fullsome meal to digest and not to quickly solve it with the oldest cliche of them all; "with a leap Jack was free".
My thoughts of how it could have been improved are as follows; made it into a two parter, the first episode still named Rose follows pretty much the same story leading up to the moment of the invasion but without the badly titled "anti-plastic". The wheelie-bin is replaced with a floating black bin-liner that descends like a web smothering Mickey, creeping over him, pulling him to the ground, struggling... Thus there is the scare, the fear that the Nestene's exhert. Have Mickey imprisoned rather than just lying there; hideous alien torture machine with him strapped in appearing dead.
The Auton invasion with the Autons erupting onto the streets, plastic objects coming to life; plastic bags descending like flying facehuggers, latching onto people's faces, the plastic cables of a ophone erupting from the walls to garrote someone. Have the Doctor, Mickey and Rose escape, the police called in to deal with a demonstration; show the Doctor as the hero defying the monsters, using a sample of auton plastic, luring an auton into the TARDIS to use as a component in substituting "Anti-plastic". However the Doctor is tricked, captured as Rose is revealed to be a copy herself, the real Rose is still in the Nestene lair. There is a struggle between Rose and the copy ending with the chemical being used and the invasion is halted.
Thus you have a captivating audience thriller lasting two parts providing more material, probably offering Clive a more suitable death scene with him trying to get closer to photograph the Autons, spying the Doctor and Rose and is gunned down in a cross-fire, plus the return of him, the Doctor is handled smoothly and gives the audience time to know the characters, to give the threat menace and to make the Doctor thoroughly rounded.
DOCTOR WHO: "ROSE"
Written by Russell T. Davies.
It was too short, lacking in character development and the scares it so richly needed. If you're going to make a monster or threat credible give it some decent moments, build it up not down, don't downplay it. The same with the characters; Clive was poorly lacking, he could have been given more screen time, he was cut out so quickly just as the Autons jerked into life.
45 Minutes just isn't long enough to compact a familiar formated story down. Plus it wasn't supposed to be tongue-in-cheek but unfortunately it ended up that way, with all the bits that emulate Buffy humour. The dialogue about all inert things made of plastic coming to life; cables, bags and then Rose's "breast implants". Not needed, come on it's supposed to be credible, not laughable.
Doctor Who was about playing cowboys and indians in space, humans versus alien monsters that wanted to invade, conquer and colonise; where has this format ever really been shown? No where; most mainstream sci-fi distances itself from the "cliched" B-movie scenarios but Doctor Who lived this, made it real, so bring it all back, seriously done, give a whole new generation a want to hide behind the sofa. If it's for family viewing don't turn it into light-hearted entertainment, treat the audience with respect, give them a fullsome meal to digest and not to quickly solve it with the oldest cliche of them all; "with a leap Jack was free".
My thoughts of how it could have been improved are as follows; made it into a two parter, the first episode still named Rose follows pretty much the same story leading up to the moment of the invasion but without the badly titled "anti-plastic". The wheelie-bin is replaced with a floating black bin-liner that descends like a web smothering Mickey, creeping over him, pulling him to the ground, struggling... Thus there is the scare, the fear that the Nestene's exhert. Have Mickey imprisoned rather than just lying there; hideous alien torture machine with him strapped in appearing dead.
The Auton invasion with the Autons erupting onto the streets, plastic objects coming to life; plastic bags descending like flying facehuggers, latching onto people's faces, the plastic cables of a ophone erupting from the walls to garrote someone. Have the Doctor, Mickey and Rose escape, the police called in to deal with a demonstration; show the Doctor as the hero defying the monsters, using a sample of auton plastic, luring an auton into the TARDIS to use as a component in substituting "Anti-plastic". However the Doctor is tricked, captured as Rose is revealed to be a copy herself, the real Rose is still in the Nestene lair. There is a struggle between Rose and the copy ending with the chemical being used and the invasion is halted.
Thus you have a captivating audience thriller lasting two parts providing more material, probably offering Clive a more suitable death scene with him trying to get closer to photograph the Autons, spying the Doctor and Rose and is gunned down in a cross-fire, plus the return of him, the Doctor is handled smoothly and gives the audience time to know the characters, to give the threat menace and to make the Doctor thoroughly rounded.
